political foo: No "Obamacare" for us, thanks

[alpharaposa]

A map of states that have either filed or intend to file legislation outlawing the healthcare bill being voted on this week within their borders

It's a little out of date. The laws have already been passed and signed in Idaho and Virginia. 35 other states may follow.

Comments

[jordan179.livejournal.com]

Wow -- that's a clear majority of the Union by states, and possibly by population as well. Obamacare would be unenforceable against that kind of opposition, especially if "passed" in an act of dubious Constitutionality. Seriously -- Obama would have to call out the military to do it, and with the Oathkeepers' movement active, I don't know if the military would obey the order.

Astonishingly, in little over a year in office, Obama has gone from the Obamessiah to the Obapariah. And he's demonstrating just how one goes about destablizing one's own Presidency in a country that's gone 135 years since the last Civil War. He's making Richard M. Nixon look like a master of public opinion by comparison.

[stryck.livejournal.com]

It only takes 38 states to hold a Constitutional Convention. Normally, that's a huge, unimaginable number. But this kind of reaction shows it's possible, given the right motivation.

[zeeth_kyrah]

So what, exactly, are these states banning? The specific health care bill under consideration, and any law made therefrom? Any form of federalized health care? Health care based on mandatory insurance?

[stryck.livejournal.com]

http://www.tenthamendmentcenter.com/nullification/health-care/

This site has a more up-to-date map, and I think explains the nature of the legislation better

[zeeth_kyrah]

So the general intent is to block any and all forms of federalized health care programs?

What happens to Medicare and Medicaid? I wonder how many states have exemptions for these. What about the federal health care program under which all our federal Congressmen fall? What happens to employment benefits and retirement benefits of federal employees that include health care?

What about programs that cut the cost of health care, still provide sufficient incentive for research, reduce overall governmental spending on health care without cutting benefits, and don't require mandatory purchases from hostile agencies? You know, the provisions that the insurance and pharmaceutical industries managed to get written out of Obama's health care plan.

I'd vote against that plan myself just because of the crap that large corporations have shoved in there, particularly the mandatory purchase BS. But I will still favor some form of nationalized health care option, because the insurance industry has too many incentives to screw us over, and Big Pharma wants to sell us recurring prescriptions instead of cures.