Date: 2008-09-03 07:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xaq.livejournal.com
I swear, people like that "prepared to do whatever it takes" kook leave me feeling sick to my stomach. x.X I can't believe anyone can actually hold onto that psychotic a mindset and not see the insanity in it.

If nothing else, the bit about destroying our self-respect for something as minute as an energy policy...what the hell!? What's the point of being able to live comfortably if we can't stand to live with ourselves?

Date: 2008-09-03 01:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jordan179.livejournal.com
I also find it interesting that protecting Iran is one goal that they find worth doing anything to achieve. Why so much fanatical loyalty toward a foreign Power which has frequently behaved harmfully toward us?

Date: 2008-09-03 03:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stryck.livejournal.com
Because war is never the answer, natch. War means people vote Republican, and winning elections is all that matters.

/cynic

Date: 2008-09-03 04:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jordan179.livejournal.com
I think they're also very frustrated over Iraq. I mean, they demonstrated against the war before it started, when it started, and as it was waged.

And they accomplished nothing. They became jokes.

That had to bother them. Deep down inside.

Date: 2008-09-03 06:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xaq.livejournal.com
The thing I find most pathetic is their claiming that 4,000 casualties in the time this conflict's been going on is somehow a mark of failure. Didn't about that many people fall n the line of duty on D-Day back in '44?

I swear, if we'd had their mindset back in the 40's, the first words we'd have said after the Pearl Harbor attack would've been "We surrender", and we'd all probably be speaking Japanese right now. :[

Date: 2008-09-03 06:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jordan179.livejournal.com
The thing I find most pathetic is their claiming that 4,000 casualties in the time this conflict's been going on is somehow a mark of failure. Didn't about that many people fall n the line of duty on D-Day back in '44?


Oh yes.

One of the more disturbing consequences of the mindset of "all must be sacrificed to agree with the Left" has been the deliberate forgetting of history. It's gotten to the point that the Left is starting to join hands with Pat Buchanan in arguing that we should have stayed out of the Second World War, because otherwise one faces uncomfortable analogies between what we wish Chamberlain and FDR did to Germany and Japan, and what Bush and Blair actually did to Iraq, and what Bush now wants to do to Iran.

Date: 2008-09-03 05:24 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] zeeth_kyrah
The problem is that there are such people on both sides of the two-party system we have today: people whose primary goal is to defeat "the other side", who see politics in terms of war and destruction rather than leadership and creation. The reason they want to build something is to prove that they won.

And because US politics is stuck in the fallacy that only two groups matter, the center is increasingly cut out of politics, and alternatives to Democrat and Republican are viewed as crazies or utterly negligible.

Date: 2008-09-03 01:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jordan179.livejournal.com
“When faced with monsters, we have to be monstrous ourselves.” Well, no, but even if it were so, think one step deeper: What happens when the monsters are merely in your mind? When they are ordinary politicians whose views you so strongly reject that you have to elevate them into monsters to explain to yourself why they could hold such mistaken views?

This is the blade by which politics turns to bloodshed.


... and that is the danger of PC thought. Like any other utterly-intolerant system, PC makes it impossible to see dissidence as anything but evil. There is no room for admitting the possibility that one may be wrong oneself, hence no room for mercy or compromise.

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